SERIOUS philosophical question for ML, folks...

So, where do you stand... Videos, or pics?

I'm no youngster so well remember when pics were about all there was, and what videos you could find were usually low quality, short rips off European porn videotapes. So for years, pics were 99% of what I fapped to (not counting non-computer sessions with just my imagination, or girls who either wanted me to fap for them or for us to fap together). Commercial porn on VHS (DVD was too rare and expensive) was mostly depressing shit with disinterested looking girls and shitty video quality, and I avoided watching any of it.

But once computer video quality got near TV level good, cable and DSL made downloading 5-20 and now even hour-plus videos take mere moments... and thanks to webcams, the majority isn't pro bitches with fake tits and obvious looks of boredom... I gotta say video is amazeballs. If I'd been able to download tens of thousands of 18-25 year old (I'm assuming the younger looking girls were 18, cuz, they MUSTVE been right?) girls who're at least as if not more freaky/horn than I was as a teen/early-20s guy and who were making non-profit hot as balls webcam vids for everyone to see doing themselves, their good girl friends, or their just as enthusiastic BFs... pretty sure I never wouldve left my bedroom for weeks at a time. The girls may be just as hot (sometimes hotter) as the pics girls, but even the plain looking girls drive me nuts... cuz you don't just see a frozen, posed moment of hips/ass, waist, tits and face, you see their writhing, hear their moaning and the squish of their wet poons, and (this does a LOT for me even if not other guys) you can watch the dozens of different intense feelings in their faces and almost even see the passion in their eyes... hell, take the right drugs and it can be damn hard to tell it apart from actually physically being there.

On the other hand, without an unlimited hard drive budget, there's only so many vids you can have. And many of them are either the same girls or groups of girls, or else the same guy with different girls who are similar enough looking to know what the dude's preferred type is. With pics, while I'm sure nobody's counted, I'd wager there's 10s if not hundreds of thousands of girls who've put homemade porn shots online. With vids it's hard to fap more than an hour or two without the same (admiddetly hot) girl showing back up, which can get a little repetetive. But then, with pics... I've been fapping online since the early 90s when Usenet had enough hot naked 15-25 (obviously I typo'd when I meant to say 18 there, right?) to make motherless give up in tears. I could go 5+ years without crossing paths with the same girl, even longer without seeing the same set of pics again.

The other good thing about a quality photo is, while it may not move, the good ones capture the girls faces in amazing shots, capture every curve, line and muscle of their bodies in an eternal moment. If you find a good 10-20 or more series of the same girl alone (or with a girl, dude, or group), scrolling throuh the set anyone with a non-tarded imagination can see a story in the photos which not uncommonly is hotter than any good video, since you need to fill in the gaps with your imagination - or you can find that one best shot and stare at it until your mind flies off in search of her pussy... or at least until your dick can't handle another stroke and your mind goes blank in an epic spoogerocket. Before that, for me anyway, I love finding a gorgeous photo of a true beauty (doesn't even need full nudity) and staring at it until the world melts away and until I blow my load I can linger my eyes across her frozen tensing and quvering muscles, her ecstatic facial expressions, and the look of "holy oh my god wow wow wow wow" in her eyes. And the effort it takes to make the girl's photo(s) fill my universe can keep me whacking for a full hour or more... while a good video can have my session over in 10 or 15 minutes. The exception being live cams where knowing I'm seeing something RIGHT NOW and that she's heading towards an orgasm almost as fast as I am mixed in with actually talking to the girl via cam or IM. In a way, fapping together with a camgirl, even if she's 5000 miles away and you don't know her real name... that's kinda magic. Whether in the same room or on different continents, you're talking to her live, often one on one with nobody else... discussing things you'd feel real awkward talking to a girlfriend about... I'd say that may be as close to actual fucking as is possible without being in the same room and at least doing oral.

It's near impossible to decide and even then I'd likely change my mind with each separate oral/hand and the rare fuck treat that comes my way because whether it's oral or more intense cam play over the net, nothing compares to a real dick-in-poon fuckparty with a girl you love (whether that's a romantic thing or just a real close friendship that occasionally crosses lines but (in my experience anyway) only tends to make the friendship deeper and stronger even if it's a one time, totally unromantic, physical thing that just serves to manifest the friendship or romance in a way words just can't.

So I dunno, I suppose I go back and forth between phases and there's times I download nothing but vids... but then will go DAYS fapping only to pics. Some of the best pics capture just the right moments for max hotness.... that first few seconds of penetrating a girl's puss and how that makes her back arch and her eyes widen and almost glow... the ecstatic grimace she has those first few serious thrusts... the minutes just before she's about to cum and loses all composure over her facial and body muscles... the divine art of a girl cumming... and that smile and the sparkling eyes of a girl just cum who's looking into her partner's eyes (or the cam if she's alone).

There's just so much LIFE in a video though.

What you all think, pics or vids best (or at least second best to taking a ride down the waterslide of ecstasy between the warm legs of a hot young lady)?

If you're a pix man (or pix lez) what are your favorite sites for real authentic looking non-pro pics, other than ML? Or your favorite ML galleries/groups? Or vidwhackers, what are your go to places? And why do you prefer one to the other?

That said, while I don't download most things, what I do save is far more video than pics. I really can't say which I think is better, or why.

Hey- just gonna post whats going on with me and my neighbor. I post, in looking for advice on how to take it to next step maybe, ideas and what to say.

About a week ago, i was talking with her and told her i was depressed and we were just chatting, and us each being single i took her up on her offer at end of the night when she said"well, how about i do something that will make you feel ALOT better" im like"gladly go on!" she then proceeded to give me 1 of the best blowjobs of my life, was amazing, she like kept it in her mouth for 15 minutes straight, when she got tired she just held it on the head for a few seconds then with full force did full up and down thrusts with her mouth. It was just pure heaven. So i obviously enjoyed myself and thanked her and she went on to her house and that was it.

Then, 2 nights ago she came over again to just to see how i was doing and offered to cook me up some steak. I of course say sure. WE chatted about life in general, parties, gambling and $$$$ situations and boyfriend/girlfriend problems. I learned from chatting with her shes in debt pretty bad and she had bad luck finding boyfriends and i can honestly say shes just an awesome girl all around, easy to chat to and all and fun to be around. Me personally, im just lonely alot because the majority of my real friends moved on to college when i chose i didnt wanna go and gamble for a living on a poker game(its skill game thats a whole other arguement for doubters on that, thats not important) so i basically got gambling buddies who i go to casino with all the time. I am well off with $$$ because im real smart and good at what i do. So i look at this girl Sara(my neighbor) and get ideas of turning this into a boyfriend/girlfriend thing and i need ideas how to make this happen?I think i kind of blew it tho by degrading her, i will explain what we did 3 nights ago and i think it hurt my chances at being her legit boyfriend, i dunno if its too late though.

At the end of dinner we were just playing yahtzee and chatting about the goods and bads of my life and when she asked me what was something i want that i dont got i told her the truth my main thing. I told her"to be honest its just a girl to be there for me when i need her im a man is that so bad to say?" I only said this because she was honest to me about alot of personal things. Any single guy out here surely knows how fuckng frusterating it is to look at hot girls online and real life and then settling to just jerkoff and not get your dick sucked right? So anyway at the end of the night when we were saying our goodbyes she turned around to leave and im like"Sara?" she turned around and i walked up to her and said"you knnow, what you did to me the other night felt amazing and i just want you to know that (then i smiled) I said it JUST like that so she gets the point ya know. She then sat me down and said"listen, as you know i care about you- you are a sweet man, and i just felt horrible for you and wanted to make you happy!!!! also, giving blowjobs the way i do, makes me all messy and unable to go out without showering and re doing my hair" She told me"its a project" "its hard to do right" I agreed with her and she told me"ill do it whenever im going right to bed or right home, but not tonight because i have to go to the gas station and buy some things for a friend and see her" She then gave me a kiss on cheek and walked off. As she was walking off i said"Sara?" she walked back over and i said"i really reaaallly can use your help tonight" What can i say, im a gambler and tried asking again(is this bad?)

She sat back down on my couch and said"ok well if im going out of my way, you will have to make it worth my while!! and i dont want you thinking im a hooker or anything, its just im doing you this favor and its really going to inconveinence me" So i said fine, and then we started negotiating prices and i was like"some girls charge 100 150 an hour but thats full sex and im not getting that!" She was only willing to give me a rough blowjob/sensual one, however i liked i(facials allowed/dirty talk/ whtever i wanted).She went on to tell me she had friends of hers that gave head for 20 bucks 40 bucks and she thought that was standard, but extra and more"fun bjs" should be more sometimes! WE couldnt really agree on a price and then she looked across the room at the bingo game/machine that i had in my closet. She pulled it out and said"we can use this" Im like, "hmm now thats interesting" She then took out the machine part and said"looks like we have 75 balls here each with a # on them, we jiggle it around and take 1 ball out and whatever it says on it is the dollar amount you give me?" So i looked and said to her"yeah thats cool but you realise the most you can get is $75, and there is a chance you pull a 1 or a 2 and you will only get 1 or 2 dollars. She giggled and said yeah and saying it would be fun. So that was our agreement. So we jiggled the balls around in circles for 30 seconds and then randomly drew a ball and the ball said G51. That means i give her $51 and i get my blowjob. She said"mmm $51 is alot of money im gonna suck you good now, ill be extra good and suck your balls mmm then rubbed my body" So that is what happened, and boy did i throatfuck her well, i never seen a girl other than some porno girls take it like she can, was incredible. After it was over she left. I later called her house and left a message on her answering machine just letting her know i was happy we had a nice time and ANYTIME, literally ANYTIME she wanted to "play bingo" again she can just knock on my door, multiple times a day it didnt matter.

Then last night was a little more complicated(at 1st she skipped a day and i was nervous thinking she wouldnt drop by, not till last night though when she did) ANyway heres what happened. She showed up at 6pm and smiled so i knew what was going on so I just grabbed the bingo game and told her to jiggle and draw a ball and lets get started, she drew I16, she puffed and said"figures, i need 60 more for this or someones gonna be really upset at me" Im like"whatever we have a deal here, now do you want the $16 or not?" She said yes and then told me to unbuckle pants. Again i had the time of my life and this time i was frusterated when i was about to cum and shes like"DONT CUM ON MY FACE" JUST as i was about to cum. so im like"fuck fuck" and just blast on her tits. I was upset, told her its rude to do that, shes like"for 16 bucks im not gonna do that" Im like"listen it coulda been $75 easily, we played fair and square honny" She said she knew and then said sorry and it wouldnt happen again. She then left, and i went to go play some games online and chat with friends.

So then its 11:15 at night and my door knocks and its Sara, she says"do you want to play bingo?" im like lol sure and we go to my bedroom to the machine and she draws a B3, and i smile thinking its funny but she breaks down in tears saying things like"this is horrible, i did a nice thing and now my greed of wanting $$ is making me do this and im drawing bad luck, what am i going do do with 3 dollars?" pout pout pout, wah wah. I then say"listen you know our agreement Sara- if you ever not want to go thru with it, i wont force you it will just be the end of us completely. I gave her 5 min or so to collect herself, she was crying and then she was like"wow i cant beleive im blowing you for 3 dollars!" I told her to think longterm and how shes just satisfying me and its fun and its a nice thing to do with someone.. So as i was laying down receiving the BJ i started talking dirty saying things like"u like that dont ya bitch, suck on it tell me how much of a whore you are" she responded by licking and telling me she loves cock, and just trying to get me off. I then say"SUCK MY DICK LIKE THE 3 DOLLAR WHORE YOU ARE DO IT GOOD BITCH PROVE THIS IS WHY YOU'RE ON THE EARTH! TO SERVE MEN NOW EARN YOUR FUCKING MONEY!" She stopped and started to cry again and told me she couldnt handle knowing shes sucking me off for such a small amount of $$$. She said its hard for her to do, and i noticed the shitty job she did compared to the time she did it for free then the $51 time. I then told her to do it right and then go home for the night, she proceeded to finish me off and then left.

So now today is today and i got a text from her asking if she can come over after she comes home from the mall, and i told her"only if you are happy i want you to stop by" She replied with"i just dont like drawing low # because its too degrading but drawing a bigger # she feels like its a job and fun and worth it. I know this girls got a good heart i really know she does shes just stressing for $$$. I told her"come over, i want to enjoy myself fully with no interruptions and putting a change to the rules tell you when you get here" IT is now almost 330 pm here and she'll be here around 7. When she comes im going to demand her to"blow me the best she can and THEN you draw the ball and find out what you're going to get, that way you cant be upset upfront" She will findout AFTER the blowjob after its done. I think thats fair.

I will report back here when we're done tonight, im also going to try to push it a little bit and try to get her to be my girlfriend, but how should i go about it? or did i allready blow it by this game thingy? Also- i want to get pics/vids of this shit to post here, how can i talk her into that?How can i talk her into letting me fuck her in her tight ass? What ya guys think? I kinda wish i just gave her $$ and not ask for shit and she'll blow me out of sympathy like she did at first, i dunno, i kinda like the desperation shit, turns me on and having her come to me, ya know?
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I'm a 22 year old female college student and I masturbate multiple times a day. I have a ton of fantasies that I would love to explore but I can never bring myself to admit to them when I'm dating a guy.

Basically this means I've had a relatively shitty sex life despite how abnormally kinky I am. I'm naturally submissive and shy but I have a huge list of things I've always wanted to do, such as: have a three-way with two guys, be sexually humiliated, have my mouth fucked, get a facial, eat a girl out, sex (or variations) in public, be fucked by an older man.

Help! How do I ask for these things without making a guy run for the hills?

This isn't really a confession. But I figured I'd post it here because everyone stays glued to this forum.

I confess that I intend to turn my girlfriend who before me was a prude into my personal submissive slut. I have been quite tame with her since we have been physical focusing more on the passionate side of "love making". Now however since she has never had a worthwhile sexual partner before me I feel she is ready and comfortable enough to have the world of d+s exposed to her.
I am going to ease her into the lifestyle. Starting out with simple things like orgasm control and denial on a smaller scale. As well as her being more vocal in sexuality. Having her ask permission to orgasm. Having her speak her mind when she is horny and wants to get fucked.. Because she barely says anything. It would turn me on so much if she came and asked me "oh master your little slut wishes to get fucked by your mighty shaft". Hell I would be all over that. Who wouldn't? And from there on things would play out. I love teasing her. Barely touching her. Caressing her softly. She flows with wetness. Like unbelievable wetness.wet to the point that her bed has a wetspot even before we fuck. Oh and I love eating her out.. I would eventually get her comfortable enough for bondage. Where then I would bind her wrists and ankles full spread st. Andrews cross style. I would tease my little cock slut until her juices are flowing like a waterfall. Then I would hold my cock above her lips just out of reach of her tongue teasing her and slapping it against her lips as my finger runs over her wet cunt. I would then collect a good amount of moisture on my fingers and smear her delicious sex juices all over her lips and threaten her "don't you dare lick that off.. If you do. You will not get this cock inside you.." Then I would eat her out and intently watch her facial expressions as she cums again and again till she's begging for my cock. Normally she covers her face when I eat her out. Prolly cuz she's shy or something. When I eat her out she just gets wetter and wetter. She tastes so sweet yet salty at the same time. And a perfect clit ring as well that I toy with often. After that well. She would get my cock after a lot of begging. She would have to ask permission when she wants to cum. And when I'm ready she has to beg for my cum in her mouth or cunt otherwise its on her tits or back... Mmm

Fuck. Sorry kinda got carried away. And sorry about grammar and Paragraphs. In on my shitty torch! Anyways ill also try to get her comfortable with me taking pics of her. I have a sexy mask for her to wear if she doesn't want her face shown. So what do you guys think? Good idea to turn a prude into a slut? Or you just want the pics ;)

Fox

CONFESSION:

A long time ago, but not too long that I can’t remember it, I had an affair with one of my step-mothers. I don’t know which number she was, as my father never told us about some of his wives, but I do believe she had been wife number four and number seven at different times.

She had waited for the right moment to begin in earnest. There wasn’t much but “accidentally” left open doors and some “oops” nudity during the first marriage. Enough to make me curious but not enough to be inviting to trying something.

During the second marriage is when things went full blown. By this time my father was not able to have sex at all because of medication he was taking that left him impotent. When he was away she’d play and play often. It wasn’t odd that she’d have a couple male (and some female) friends over for the weekend, all of them holed up in her room, while the stench and sounds of sex came from within.

The years between marriages hadn’t been the best to her. She was never quite hot to begin with but she had some looks. During the first marriage she was skinny with small tits and what could be considered a bigger ass for her frame. When the second marriage came around she had been doing drugs and living hard for awhile and had acquired a bit of a paunch. Her ass didn’t look as good with the paunch, and her small tits were not nearly as firm as they had been before. Like I said, not quite hot but had some looks that she’d let go a bit due to drugs and hard living. Still enough to get my young hormones going though and if you hadn’t seen her from before there wouldn’t have been enough of a difference for anyone to care.

My father was out traveling the country as part of his job for weeks on end. It ended up with just her and I in the house most of the time and she kept up with the “accidental” door openings, more overt teasing than before (she loved parading around the house in nothing but a towel that just barely covered her). I fully admit to standing at a vantage point to see through the door while her and her friends were inside, jerking off to her getting fucked. I was still at the point where I wasn’t sure if she knew or not; sometimes I was sure she knew but other times I doubted it. She never really let on either way until after we started fucking.

I’m also pretty sure she had spied on me when I was jerking off in my bedroom alone. I’d hear a floor creak or a rush of air would jiggle the door (we had really shitty doors) just enough to know someone had been outside of it a moment before. I know she had watched some of my first ever blowjob.

She had a liberal view of friends coming over, which meant that I could have girls come over to spend the night just as much as guys. I’d fooled around some with girlfriends but never really closed a deal on anything until a girl I knew came over to spend the night. Her and I weren’t a couple and were barely friends at the time but it was one of those “we know this is going somewhere, we just don’t know where…” type relationships. Early the next morning, after a smoke or two, the girl and I got to talking and I negotiated a blowjob from her. I sat on the bed, she pulled my cock out, and sucked it like a pro. As this girl was sucking me off I saw something out of the corner of my eye, in the window, a shadow or something, that moved. I looked over and saw something dart down. I caught just enough of the black hair to recognize that it was my step-mother’s head that had gone out of sight. I told the girl that I wanted to change position. I stripped naked, we changed position, and she went back to sucking my cock. I played with her tits and looked out the corner of my eye at the window. I had positioned us so that if my step-mother were to look again she’d get a perfect view of everything; my cock, the girl sucking it, the girl’s tits… everything. After a minute or two more the girl was set to make me cum and I got a bit loud. I saw that movement at the window again and did a quick glance; it was definitely my step-mother and she was watching the climax. I came in the girl’s mouth, at the girl’s insistence, and made sure she got every drop. I stood up and the head disappeared from view again.

Nothing was said until later that night when after dinner, while my step-mother and I were sitting on the couch in the den, she asked if I had gotten any from the girl. Even though I knew she knew I still had that bit of doubt that crept in, just like when I was outside her door jerking off, and I told her that I had gotten a blowjob but not revealing that I knew she had watched.

This was another thing she was liberal about: sex talk. She’d ask questions as if she were doing a paper for some sex studies class but without being clinical about it. She’d go downright raunchy when she wanted. She asked if it was my first blowjob, how it felt, did I cum in her mouth or on her tits or on her face, did I fuck her, did she rim me or finger fuck my ass… just about anything one could ask.

So I told her about it. Told her it was my first, it felt great, came in the girl’s mouth and how I was bummed she had to leave instead of being able to stay and get/do more. As I told her all of this I was getting hard again, thinking about the blowjob, and the fact that my step-mother was in that damned towel wasn’t helping matters. I didn’t realize at first but she was getting closer to me on the couch as I was telling her. Around the time I got to the part about being bummed that I wasn’t going to get anymore for awhile she was almost on top of me, which is when I noticed. I noticed that she was so close to me that I could feel her tits, small as they were, brushing against my arm. I swear I could feel heat from her pussy emanating onto my thigh. I looked over at her and saw that that damned towel was undone just enough so that I could see down it at her tits. The hard-on that I had got harder, which surprised me, and I knew there was no hiding it as the bulge on the front of my pants was just too noticeable.

As I stared at her tits, finally silent, I felt her hand move onto my bulge. She was alternating between light and hard strokes over it, driving me crazy. She caught my attention and I looked up at her face. She confessed that she had watched through the window and it turned her on to see me getting my first blowjob. While she confessed this she undid my pants and put her hand into my underwear, stroking and squeezing my cock. I sat there staring at her face, relief and shock vying for control of my mind as at least one secret was out in the open.

She then pulled my pants and underwear down and off, straddled me, and played with my cock, jerking it. She told me that she knew I’d been jerking off outside her bedroom door, that it turned her on to know I was watching her get fucked. As she told me this she moved the head of my cock to rub the outside of her pussy. She moved in and kissed me, full on tongue. When she pulled back she discarded that damned towel then whispered into my ear, “You don’t have to wait too long have some more…”

The last word had barely enough time to linger in my ear as she grabbed my cock and put it inside of her. She used her hands to push me back onto the couch, kissing me as she took the rest of me inside of her. She was riding hard but slow, deliberate strokes, showing me a good time while also getting herself off. After the initial shock of what was happening wore off I got into it and kissed back with the same passion she showed. As she was getting closer to climax she started riding faster and harder, letting out moans. I could feel my own climax building and told her so. She told me to cum inside of her and as I did she grasped me tight, shivering. As I emptied the last of what I had she fell into me and panted, shivering more. I asked if she was alright and she responded yes, but that I wasn’t done. She “may have cum once but once isn't enough”.

We lay there on the couch for a bit, had a smoke, then she took me to her bedroom. She lay down on the bed, spread her legs and told me to eat her. I was apprehensive, as I had never done so, but knowing that she’d guide me. I kneeled down and started licking her. She tasted quite good and I didn’t even care that I could taste myself and my cum in her. All mixed together it tasted great. I took her directions as I ate my first creampie and soon enough she was cumming. She made me go one more time, this time adding in eating her ass, and she came once more all while directing me to how she liked it.

When I stood up I was hard again. She pushed me onto my back on the bed and started sucking my cock. After a minute or two she stopped and asked if she was better than the girl from before. I told her it was no contest. She retorted, “You should bring that girl back and I’ll teach her how to really suck a cock” before returning to doing so herself. I was getting close to cumming again when she stopped.

After wiping her face off she came up, kissed me again, and said it was time for me to fuck her right. She moved onto all fours and told me to fuck her from behind. I moved up behind her, trying to get my cock in, when she reached behind and guided me. Her pussy felt like an even better heaven from this angle and I started pounding away as soon as I got a groove going.

A couple minutes later I was cumming inside of her again, deeper this time. When I had finished I popped right down to eat her again. It had tasted so good mixed together before I wanted more. I had better access to her pussy and ass this time with a far grander idea of what she liked and ate her like she enjoyed. She came once more and we took a bit of a long break.

After resting, making small talk and having a few smokes she said me she was going to be direct with me. She told me she had wanted to fuck me for a long time but held off until I had done something with someone else first. She said she was trying to wait until I lost my virginity but couldn’t and settled for the blowjob I had gotten. She had hoped that I’d take advantage of the two of us being home alone all the time, what with my jerking off to her getting fucked, but got frustrated that I never worked up the nerve to do something.

Then she gave me a choice; we could make this a one time thing and be done with it or we could continue. She told me that if we continued she’d make sure I’d experience things most people would spend their lives regretting not doing or trying to attain. She countered that it might be best if I did seek those things out myself in my own time. She admitted that she wanted to keep fucking and to show me the wide world of sex.

I didn’t hesitate to tell her that I’d love to keep fucking her and I’d be more than willing to do whatever she had in mind.

Over the next four years, the length of time that her marriage to my father lasted from that point on, we fucked almost daily. She was or had introduced me to my first everything. She was my first anal, my first facial, my first fisting, my first golden showers and my first pegging. She introduced me to cocksucking and getting fucked by men.

That girl that had given me my first blowjob? She was part of my first threesome with the step-mother, after a little liquor to loosen her up to the idea of fucking my step-mother as well as myself. The step-mother taught her how to eat pussy just like she had taught me. She showed the girl how great getting her pussy ate was. She also taught her how to give a superior blowjob, just like she had said she would.

Threesomes, foursomes, and more. Just about everything under the sun she was a part of the first of.

And the seconds, and the thirds, and the fourths, and…